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Why Are So Many People Addicted To Online Dating?
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Naturally, I’ve long been an advocate for online dating, not because it’s perfect, but because it ALWAYS created a love life for me. As a writer without a close-knit group of friends, who worked from home, and who bristled at the idea of picking up women at bars, this medium was a godsend. I had my first online girlfriend in 2000 for five months, fell in love in 2003 in a seven-month relationship, did it again in 2004 for four months, and had my last online girlfriend in 2006 for eight months. However, if you were watching my profile on JDate, you’d have assumed that I was online from 1998-2006 without any success.
In fact, in my dating heyday, I didn’t just try JDate. I tried Match, Chemistry, eHarmony, Nerve, AmericanSingles, Matchmaker… I’m probably even forgetting one or two places. You date someone for a month, you go back on. Three months, you go back on. Sometimes, when you leave, you don’t take your profile down—which leads you to be labeled an online dating addict by a woman who is on every single site herself.
And so it goes.
But you ARE onto something, Barb, which is that online dating CAN be addicting.
Just like alcohol can be used recreationally or abusively, so can Match.com. What’s similar is that the users always think that they’ve got it under control, and that nobody’s getting hurt in the process.
This is clearly not true.
There’s a delusional aspect to successful online dating—one that I’ve embodied—one that I’ve seen in my clients as well. You sign up on eHarmony because you’re serious about a relationship. You want marriage, you want kids, you’re ready for love. And then you start the process. Dozens of women parade across your screen, each younger, smarter, more attractive, more tantalizing than the last. Suddenly, you’re corresponding with 12 people online, have five phone numbers, and three dates scheduled in a weekend. This is not the GOAL, but an almost uncontrollable byproduct of the choice and volume inherent in online dating.
Don’t worry about the guys who seem like addicts. We’re all addicts—until we find the person who makes us want to kick our addiction.
And this is what gets lost on all the people who say that every man’s a player who’s just out to get laid. In fact, the vast majority of men (75% in an old Match.com poll) are looking for a long-term relationship. It’s just super difficult to settle on one person when you perceive that you have better options that are just a click away. This is the false temptation of online dating. We THINK we have the choice of everyone, when, in fact, we don’t. Why would I write to the 38 year old when I can write to the 28 year old? Why would you write to the guy who makes $50K when you could write to the guy who makes $150K? Or the 5’6” guy, when there’s bound to be a 5’10” guy somewhere in the system?
In real life, we meet people organically, feel attraction and learn about them later. We don’t know their age or their sign or their likes and dislikes. Online dating reverses that process. We learn about them first, and discover attraction later. This makes connecting easy and instantaneous, but it also allows us to dissect people and compare them to others side by side. And if you have anything going “against you”—height, weight, income, age—you’re often going to lose by comparison.
The real upshot, Barb, is that by understanding this—by being more open and forgiving of men, by keeping a positive attitude, by going on multiple sites, by persevering despite the frustration—you give yourself a much greater chance of success than if you said, “Online dating is bullshit, men are bullshit, I quit.”
Quitters never win. Winners never quit.
Don’t worry about the guys who seem like addicts. We’re all addicts—until we find the person who makes us want to kick our addiction.
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Michael Ejercito May 14th 2008 at 10:16 am 1
Of course people should expand their options; it is like investing.
Marc May 14th 2008 at 11:18 am 2
Online dating as Evan describes it is one thing, but the addiction end of it stems from people constantly wanting to see who viewed, or hot listed them…or whether the hot chick or guy you emailed opened your message. I lived that existence until I stopped online dating. It can become exhausting, if you let it.
Lance May 14th 2008 at 06:16 pm 3
I have a major love/hate relationship with online dating. I’m gotten plenty of dates and a few quality gf’s from it, but I think it’s way too narrow of a field of prospects and I hate that I get disqualified based on things like height, weight, income, etc. This happens in-field of course, but I can make up for it with boldness and my charming personality
On the other hand, I do see it as another tool in the box for getting dates, so it’s not all bad. I’m certainly not addicted, and what kiboshes the addiction for me is the monthly cost of the subscription. Subscribed to three different sites? We’re talking over $100 a month there. That’s before the date even starts!
Evan Marc Katz May 14th 2008 at 06:27 pm 4
Ah, yes, but Lance…for people who are not pick-up artists in “the field”, for people who find the bar scene distasteful, online dating might be the only game in town. A huge part of my job is to help people master that medium, to generate the kind of success that would be IMPOSSIBLE to replicate in real life. Truly, if you’re not adept at picking up strangers, there’s no better place than the internet.
As far as $ goes, you can spend $100 to get dates or you can spend months of your life lamenting that you don’t have enough dates. What’s it gonna be? Anyone who values a shirt, a meal, a concert ticket, or a phone bill over their LOVE life isn’t that serious about their love life…
Sally May 14th 2008 at 09:26 pm 5
I think where it becomes an addiction is with people that do not actually meet anyone in real life and use online dating to replace a real world social life.
Online dating should be a way to extend the possibilities of who you can meet, not replace going out and actually meeting them.
Just a gal May 15th 2008 at 05:25 am 6
“We’re all addicts—until we find the person who makes us want to kick our addiction.” I couldn’t agree more Evan!
I found my ex-boyfriend back on his old dating site within days of our breaking up (he has had past success online so I wasn’t surprised he’d be back so soon). We had both noticed each other’s profiles online. We eventually ended up back together but I noticed that he was still online when I went to delete my account. I told him that I’m committed to making us work this time and hoped that he was on the same page. He said he was into us completely but he did admit that he was caught up in the fantasy online dating world where he had dozens of beautiful women writing to tell him that he was desirable. I told him that if he ever needs to be reminded of that he should call me up. Anyway, he promptly deleted his account and we are both devoted to building a future together.
By the way, love your blog Evan. I’ve been quietly visiting for a while now. Keep it up!
Steve May 15th 2008 at 05:38 am 7
Lance May 14th 2008 at 06:16 pm 3
Subscribed to three different sites? We’re talking over $100 a month there. That’s before the date even starts!
Bar hopping for dates isn’t free. Cover charges, drinks, dry cleaning, and cab/metro rides in the city, etc. Those things can add up to $100 a month.
JB May 15th 2008 at 08:02 am 8
Well you’ve got to hand it to Evan this is his forte and he nails the question with a great answer. I think people both men & women can get addicted to the emotional rollercoaster that BEING on an online dating site (or sites) can give them. Notice how I didn’t say “ONLINE DATING” ? That’s because most MEN never actually get to the point of going on dates. They’re lucky if they ever get a response. But they stay on these sites day after day because like online gambling. They always think “today’s the day” When in reality the odds of them getting a response and going on a date with a woman they’re really attracted to is slim & none.They’re chasing rainbows.Like gambling though, it feels so good when you win.
Lance May 15th 2008 at 04:16 pm 9
Like I said, it’s another tool in the box. I don’t think online dating should REPLACE traditional socializing methods, ie meeting strangers, but it’s fine as a supplement.
What’s distasteful about bars and clubs, besides drunk people? If you can get past the drinking, bars and clubs are just places where people congregate and socialize. What most people find distasteful about the bar scene is that it’s so COMPETITIVE…everyone is good looking, everyone is dressed to the nines, everyone is running game. Hey, I hated the bar scene until about two years ago…why did I hate it? Because I was invisible and I couldn’t hang. I felt like an outsider, and it sucked. In fact, this is the very reason I got myself a match account!
Now I love the bar scene, because I know how to socialize and have fun in these venues, and I’m no longer an outsider. It took me a couple of years to get to that point, but it was certainly doable.
Also, EMK, it’s never impossible to get results in-field for any person. I’m nothing special in looks, height, financials, or any other typical metric of social value…if I can do it, anyone can.
Evan Marc Katz May 15th 2008 at 05:00 pm 10
I hear ya, buddy. But understand that for 45 year old single parents, “running game” in a club is not something you want to be doing.
And those are my clients. Intelligent, successful, way-past-the-bar-scene people. More power to you for having fun with it.
Ev
Honey May 15th 2008 at 05:43 pm 11
I LOVED online dating, and if the price tag is a factor there are free accounts like myspace where you can practice a little bit. It’s how I met my BF after 4 years on Match. In my experience, having accounts on multiple sites was likely to bring up the exact same people, unless you choose sites with different foci–I might choose Match, a veggie singles website, and an animal lovers website to diversify my options.
For me, the club/bar scene doesn’t suck in and of itself, just as a way of meeting people. Who wants to shout over loud music, fight your way to the bathroom, or have some smarmy guy come up behind you and start grinding on your ass when you’re not looking? I think they’re fun to go out with your friends, or maybe on a date once you have someone, but not as a way to meet people. I’ve never had a single relationship come out of a club/bar and neither has the BF. I think our experiences are the norm.
I do see how it’s possible to get addicted. Even now that my Match profile has been hidden for well over two years, I tell myself, “I don’t need to cancel this account. What if things don’t go as planned with the BF? My handle is AWESOME and I’ll never get it back!” But I just moved in with him, so I guess I’ll have to bite the bullet and do it…
tomorrow…
JB May 15th 2008 at 06:35 pm 12
Yeah Lance, I don’t know how old you are but I’m 47 and where I live their are very few bars where people between the ages of 35-50(my dating bracket) hang out for me to do my approaches. The last couple of places that did cater to our age range closed down. Now I’m FORCED to rely on the internet more than I used to and I hate it. I used to have a place or places to go 4 or 5 nights a week that were “target” rich for the 35 and up crowd but now they’ve almost all dried up. It used to be the internet is where I met only about 10 or 20% of the women I might date but in the last year it’s about 75%. Evan is right and wrong. I don’t want to be “running game” in bars at my age. But I’m single, I love to dance and meet women in a live atmosphere and mingle as well as enjoy an adult beverage so what’s wrong with that ? Everyone puts in their online ad “tired of the bar scene” yadda, yadda, yadda….I’m the one who once put in my online ad “tired of the online dating scene,I’m going back to the bar where I actually MEET women and KNOW what they look like” …LOL
Markus May 16th 2008 at 04:33 am 13
Excellent response by Evan and the others here. I wouldn’t say that I was addicted to it as, like Evan has said, it’s not the “goal”. You’re looking for the goal. The problem is the perception of choice and that “the perfect mix” is right around the corner. Now, one wee sociological phenomenon that Evan didn’t mention is that when you do get “in the zone” which happened to me a couple of times, when you are literally juggling talking to/dating 3-5 women at once, can create a coldness that maybe wouldn’t happen otherwise. I have my kids a few days a week and am working a 40 hour job and a part-time job to make ends meet. Trying to squeeze dates/calls with several women in there gets exhausting and frustrating. You start resenting the dates, at least a bit. Because out of all those dates you might actually meet one or two that you say “I could go exclusive with her”. Problem is she doesn’t feel the same way. Or maybe you do go exclusive for a bit but it breaks up. In the meantime you had to end things with other nice, attractive women who you now can’t get back. More frustration but you go back trying to find someone like the one you were willing to go exclusive with. Online dating can be addicting and it’s because we are human.
“We will always be much more human than we wish to be.” Pain of Salvation
“Year after year, and with renewed ambition, we scale the walls to find there’s nothing there.” Fates Warning
Selena May 16th 2008 at 07:28 am 14
I thought it was ironic and amusing Barb would even write in about this topic. How would you know the same guys were on the same sites if you weren’t yourself? And why wouldn’t they be for the same reasons?
A few years ago I considered trying internet dating-thought it might be fun, but I ended up meeting someone in person before ever getting around to having my picture taken, or composing a profile. NOW, after reading this column for nine mos., the picture I get is that online dating is really a younger woman’s game. If men in their 40’s & 50’s are seeking women online in their 20’s & 30’s, Because They Can! (if only in their imaginations) it doesn’t seem an ideal venue for us cool, middle age chicks to meet the men who’d like to meet US.
I kinda think of online dating sites as a type of catalogue shopping: Flipping the pages, I might be really attracted to that sleek pair of stilletos. But when I go shopping, what I really want is a flexible pair of sandals that fit. To that end, it’s best to try the shoes on in the store.
Michael Ejercito May 16th 2008 at 07:28 am 15
One reason why Internet dating is so popular.
For one thing, almost everyone online is available.
JB May 16th 2008 at 08:59 am 16
Selena….very very few men online who are in their 40’s and 50’s get ANY younger
Steve May 16th 2008 at 09:06 am 17
Honey, post #11. As a single vegan I had your experiences too.
Steve May 16th 2008 at 09:09 am 18
Evan; I liked your observation that in online dating you get to know people in reverse from when you meet them (first) in person.
Lance; I agree with you. Online dating feel artificial and a bit stifling.
Looks, money, height, personality, etc are all issues in both dating venues. What I like about meeting people in person ( when it is an option ) is that many of those things are discovered right away instead of an awkward situation. In some ways online dating is a sophisticated form of blind dating.
JB May 16th 2008 at 09:19 am 19
For some reason my posts keep getting cut off after 1 sentence. Anyone know why ??
My post should of read:
Selena….very very few men online who are in their 40’s and 50’s get ANY younger
JB May 16th 2008 at 09:20 am 20
Nope it still didn’t take it. If this doesn’t go thru just omit them all.This happened yesterday too.
Selena….very very few men online who are in their 40’s and 50’s get ANY younger
Selena May 16th 2008 at 11:18 am 21
I didn’t ‘get’ what you were saying JB. Glad to know it’s your computer-lol! Interested now in reading the rest of the sentence–keep trying?
Li-Ann May 16th 2008 at 01:31 pm 22
I agree with Evan and I also liked all the comments above. Two women I knew who were confident enough to admit to me that they did online dating, became quite into it to the point of addiction.
One of the women did not post her picture, and wouldn’t even send a picture if asked. She was not pretty, so that was part of why she kept the picture back, but a lot of it for her was the attention. She didn’t get that kind of attention in her normal life. She’d enjoy getting all the emails from guys, having a full inbox, getting into a conversation, etc. Of course, the guys would fade away soon without the picture, but she just loved it. She sat near me at work and was constantly going to check her inbox, and spending more and more time with the computer. I felt it was unfair to the men, but she didn’t seem to care. Nothing ended in a relationship, and she ended up getting a dog.
I think the main problem I see is the point Evan made about the never ending “choices”. People think: why settle now if something better might be around the corner? I also think that more often than not people can get embittered if they go into a real life date with tons of hope and find the person was lying about themselves in their online profile. Or, the person just wanted sex, and disappears.
I understand that online dating opens up tons of possibilities that you might have normally not had, and frees you from the bar scene, but I think the bitterness and wariness grows with more face to face disappointments where you find your hopes dashed. You have to be a real optimist, and not all of us are. All though I hear it is better for our health!
JB May 16th 2008 at 02:13 pm 23
LAST TRY-from a different computer….this is more frustrating than online dating !!!! …lol
Selena….very very few men online who are in their 40’s and 50’s get ANY younger
JB May 16th 2008 at 02:14 pm 24
OK I quit
ANY younger
Jadee May 16th 2008 at 03:05 pm 25
I have been doing the online dating site off and on for about 5 years. As a single mom, this is the best option to “meet” people, then chat/talk while planning to “meet for drinks or dinner” during my next “kid-free weekend” (which is the standard every other weekend).
However, I am constantly being “stood-up”…even to the matter of making the final details of where to meet just 3 hours prior!!!!
My synopsis is:
1. It IS “buffet” dating for many men…”why have the roast beef when filet mignon is just two steps (or clicks) away?”
2. Men online may just be socially inept and not comfortable “meeting a real woman” offline.
3. Men online are hiding a wife/girlfriend.
****I tend to think the main reason I get stood up “offline” is the third reason. ****
In the meantime, where does one look to meet a quality date?
Eda May 16th 2008 at 03:09 pm 26
JB — did you want to write…very very few men online who are in the 40’s and 50’s get any younger women?
Selena May 16th 2008 at 03:46 pm 27
Eda,
Or, Get any from younger women? LOL!
Steve May 16th 2008 at 04:51 pm 28
Li-Ann May 16th 2008 at 01:31 pm 22
I understand that online dating opens up tons of possibilities that you might have normally not had, and frees you from the bar scene, but I think the bitterness and wariness grows with more face to face disappointments where you find your hopes dashed.
Very true and the pitfalls of the bar scene are so prevalent that they have become cliches. Any way you slice it trying to get unsingle after college is tough.
JB May 17th 2008 at 05:59 am 29
Yes, Selena & Eda that’s it !! Heck most of em are lucky if they meet a woman their own age…lol
Sara May 17th 2008 at 12:28 pm 30
I love that last line because it’s true! We are all addicts until we find someone who is enough to make us quit. It’s the whole ‘grass is always greener’ concept.
Selena May 17th 2008 at 12:43 pm 31
Well JB,
We’re out there! And we are not all pinched, bitter, and bogged down with baggage either. Lot’s of us are MORE fun than we were when we were in our 20’s and 30’s too!
Michele May 18th 2008 at 08:51 am 32
Selena thank you for posting (31).
When in my 20’s was into grad school and career building…my 30’s were spent with my growing children. Looking back I was not real interesting dating material and also married.
You are so on point about the baggage, etc., issues for “us” more mature chicks! Most of the men I date rather enjoy the fact that I am direct, yet sensual and fun. What tickles me is the younger guys who trip over themselves, claiming to desire the company of a woman in her 40’s or 50’s.
I have met all of my (age appropriate) dates from online sites and will continue to do so. That said there are times when I may not be seeing someone, but that’s life.
As far as an addiction….EMK wrote it best. The addiction becomes moot and insignificant if a true connection is made.
Selena May 18th 2008 at 04:30 pm 33
Michele, thank YOU for posting.
If you have had success with online dating over 40, maybe I shouldn’t dismiss it based on what I’ve read. Personally, I feel free-er, more relaxed, less anxious, and more easy-going than I ever did when I was younger. And instead of dragging my ex’s and the go-with past BS around with me, all that is back in the corner of the attic, under a sheet, gathering dust. Where it belongs.
Not something that was necessarily true when I was in my 20’s and 30’s.
peggy rush May 19th 2008 at 03:05 am 34
hello all..i have been trying the on line dating thing at 52 yars old not alot of places to meet a good friend.. My problem is like the price of the site above a man had said some that you respond to dosn’t even give you a chance well there are alot i would love to respond to but all i can send is ice brakers and i feel so bad when i would love to give them my email address but can’t and truly money is an issue but very lonly and is stuck between a rock , so if you don’t get a responce MAYBE its not you but just can’t let them no why you can’t respond..Can anyone tell me a good FREE web site and maybe someone needs to start one maybe bloging in different areas could connect lonly people do we really believe in the 29 dem LOL the worse that could happen is we meet a friend in the same place we are in.. Thanks all this READING has helped me get thru some tuff times.
Michele May 19th 2008 at 07:16 am 35
Selena.
I love the way you describe how you have hidden your baggage - lol. Every once in a while my “baggage” surfaces…….then I realize that in order to get to point B (freedom and sanity), I had to struggle through point A….gets me back on track real quick.
Online dating became a reality for me due to my residential venue. Have met some interesting men as well as certified jerks. The latter earlier in my search and since then have become relatively proficient at sorting out the good, the bad and the ugly.
Have also experienced the highs of meeting someone who (I felt) fit every criteria (and then some) only to be disappointed. The disappointment of no call after the first or second date. I know Evan is on point when he writes that a lady should not make the “call.” but sometimes I wonder if I should step out of that box. Fortunately there was little invested on my part with those who chose not to see me again. My attitude has become I cannot be everything to everybody. Some men have led me to believe that we would see each other again - and that rejection has a sting. I now use a lot of learned caution.
As an example…about a month ago started communicating with yet another nice guy. My “gut” told me that it wouldn’t work - he called me too often, if that makes sense. We made plans to meet for dinner and when I called him the day before, he asked if he could return my call in a few minutes. A few minutes came and went and by the 2nd day I knew my “gut” was correct. Quite frankly I didn’t even bother doing the analyses in his case.
There have also been those who have made the “call” and I simply had no interest, so the rejection issue works both ways. Since reading EMK’s blog I have learned a number of new techniques and have found my self-esteem enhanced. Evan is a fountain of clear and certain mental perception about how men think. Although I cannot think like a man, I sort of know what to expect.
There are a number of sites that target those over 40, too. Just scroll up on this page….they are all listed right here.
I really do wish you the best, Selena. Program yourself to think in terms of enjoying the search….works for me.
dadshouse May 19th 2008 at 08:51 am 36
I’m a 40-something single parent, and I think online dating SUCKS. I say that from years of experience with it. It sets unrealistic expectations and usually leads to disappointment. Studies have shown that most of the tens of millions of people who try online dating are not very satisfied with the experience. (I’ve blogged about this a lot.)
As a writer and single parent who doesn’t have a built-in excuse to rub shoulders with many single adults during the course of my day, I bought into the notion that online dating was a valuable tool. And it was a good tool - for meeting random people for coffee and drinks and booty calls. But for finding love? Nope. Chemistry cannot be articulated in checkboxes and online prose. It is felt by the entire body in person.
My advice - get to know yourself. Be happy with who you are. Accept your circumstances. Get out and mingle, flirt. You don’t have to go clubbing to do this - you can flirt at the grocery, in the coffee house, at an art festival or concert, at the gym. Live and enjoy your life. Be happy and grateful for all you have, and open to whoever walks in.
Markus May 20th 2008 at 05:50 am 37
Good advice dadshouse. Going to try that for a while but I suspect it will be hard.
Lee Coles May 20th 2008 at 11:55 am 38
Two can meet online, but there’s no substitute for eye contact and body language when it comes to bonding. Chat, IM and e-mail run contrary to some innate realities concerning attraction, and the building thereof.
Lance May 20th 2008 at 05:31 pm 39
@Jadee: What you’re describing is your basic flake, where the potential date just flakes out on you. I went through a long stretch where this happened to me many times, including the flake 3 hours before the date! My theory is that the other person is making dates, going on dates, or at least talking to a bunch of other dudes, and she simply selected me out of the group prior to the date. This used to piss me off but now I hold no grudges over flakes. It’s just part of the online dating process. So, much of converting dates via online is timing…basically catching the other person before 5 other people get to them. I know this is the case for women, because women are getting the bulk of the emails online, but I’m sure it happens for men also.
@EMK and others: I’m actually interested in the “age problem,” ie figuring out the best ways for older singles to meet other people. I’ll do some research and see what I can find via my PU resources. There are plenty of older (40’s and 50’s) social artists, so they must deal with this issue in some form. I do have a promising story that I’ll drop into a separate comment…
Steve May 20th 2008 at 05:31 pm 40
Lee Coles May 20th 2008 at 11:55 am 38
Two can meet online, but there’s no substitute for eye contact and body language when it comes to bonding
I read that sentence really fast and thought I saw “bondage” as the last word instead. I need to cut back on caffeine.
Lance May 20th 2008 at 05:35 pm 41
Okay, here’s my story. I have an acquaintance, age 50, divorced with two teenage daughters. He found a great gal and got married a couple of years ago. What did he do? He took dance lessons and started going to singles dances…his theory was that women love to dance, so his game was dancefloor game. Brilliant! It’s worth noting he lives in Chapel Hill, which is great for college age singles, but lousy for singles his age. So, the answer for him was a bit of creativity. I think you can do things like this PLUS a few other things PLUS some online stuff and increase your odds dramatically.
Steve May 21st 2008 at 06:21 am 42
Lance, post #41. Interesting comment!
DEBS Sep 4th 2008 at 10:58 am 43
Ah, online dating.. have tried that, met a few nice guys but no chemistry there. Met my current boyfriend in a bar, lots of chemistry, he is fantastic !…………. that is until I caught him last week with four different profiles on four different dating sites after 6 months of dating me………….NOW i think the whole thing sucks
Chris Sep 9th 2008 at 10:02 am 44
Online dating made me a misogynist.
Tyler Sep 9th 2008 at 03:22 pm 45
Post #44: Why?
A-L Sep 9th 2008 at 03:28 pm 46
Chris’ last comment made me curious about some of the other men on this site. Many of the men here have expressed their distrust and dislike of many women for their materialistic nature (dinner whores, etc). My question is, has online dating been the impetus for your negative feelings for any of the rest of you? Perhaps women’s profiles asking for men’s salaries to be 2-3x theirs, meeting women who are only using the men for dinner & drinks, etc. Or did dating in the “real” world shape you more, or some other cause?
Not trying to recreate the gender war (we know where the more-cautious-about-women men stand) but want to figure out how they came to feel that way.
Tyler Sep 9th 2008 at 04:52 pm 47
I took to heart men’s complaints about women being dinner whores and came up with free 1st dates that the men I have dated have enjoyed — 1. Going on a walk with me and my puppy and then grabbing something coffee afterwards. I only do this with men who actually like dogs 2. Taking a walking tour of outdoor art in the downtown area where I live. If guys don’t want to take women to dinner for a first date (and I don’t think they have to), they should try to come up with something creative that incorporates something that the woman likes. Many women will give men bonus points if they think men are actually pays attention to the details.
Harry Sep 17th 2008 at 09:41 am 48
I am 67 and I like dating younger women. That’s the way I like it. Why, women my age are fat,lazy and ugly. In intead of trying to make themselves younger by doing exercises at a fitness center, their sittuing on their butts watch tv and eating cake. I work out at Bally in WPB,Fl. I am also doing exercises on the face muscles. I order online dvd’s from Carole Maggio . I am trying to find out how old she is. I have better luck meeting women in a supermarkets than online dating, because I tell the truth about my age, and I get no where with it. If your looking for a sex date you shouldn’t be truthful about your age. If your 60, say your 50, but you better look like you’re 50.
Harry